Friday, April 16, 2021

Reading Quora Opinions: "Has Feminism Made Men Afraid of Women? If So, How?" Part A

Photo Credit: Quora, Submitted by Romeo Vasquez Hello Everyone! I have shared several other questions and answers from Quora. I found another interesting question on the subject matter that involves the 'fear of feminism'. The research into this subject is much larger than my original estimation. Therefore, I am going to break this up into Parts A & B. This is due to my Anchor platform's audio recording feature that imposes a limit of 30 minutes maximum. In lieu of just sharing my view, I want to share all 13 responses to the question. I am sharing the male views first, then the anonymous views, then the women's view on the question are last. I also wanted to dig up some information on feminism. I believe in looking at all sides of a coin. Melissa and I had a chat recently that we both do not consider ourselves as feminists. We both make the strong association that feminism is the most extreme level on the classification scale of women. I am trying to research the parameters of feminism to see if we fall into the category based upon our characteristics and/or behavior. Now that sounds like another topic of discussion! I will offer a summary of my thoughts in Part B. Of course, I can't help myself. I already laughed at some of the 'foolish' responses that I took a peep at before I even finished reading! Now, let's see what they have to say on the subject: Opinion #1: "Oh, boy, yes: extremely so. At least to me and many guys I have spoken to, we are terrified to fully express ourselves around women in a natural, healthy way. We can’t hardly go around or speak to some individual women (the hardcore feminist variety), without them yelling at us for some thought crime. I remember one of these feminists got angry at me like this once because I said in a conversation (how we got to the subject is irrelevant) that I would not like to be mistaken for being a gay man or hit on by gay men. And oh man, did she go off her rockers here. She hit me with the typical “you’re homophobic!” several times quite loudly in front of other people in public, even though I do not think homosexuality is immoral, bad or anything. In fact there are several well-known public intellectuals who I will listen to who are gay. A chief example of men being intimidated by feminism is the MGTOW movement, which advocates giving up on women, in favor of (ahem) other sexual pursuits, as they believe all or nearly all women have been corrupted by the irrationality of modern feminism and/or it is too risky to date women considering the blatantly false rape accusations that have lost many men jobs, gotten them kicked out of college, or imprisoned as well as the staunchly gynocentric rulings in family courts that tear apart a man’s life, finances, and can land him in debtor’s prison for not paying alimony and child support (or again rape/ child abuse accusations that have no evidence). Now I am not a MGTOW, as I believe there is a significant number of rational, great women and that the pursuit of marriage and raising the next generation is fundamental to improving society, but I can empathize where they are coming from." -Jeremy Smith Opinion #2: "Sure, some men. There are men whose identities are tied up in an outdated vision of masculinity. They believe they have a right and obligation to control or insult women. Paying women less because they might one day become pregnant, wringing hands over women voters making decisions based on which candidate is more attractive, and thinking that there's nothing wrong with getting a woman drunk or worse to take advantage of her. As far as I can tell, they see the world as a zero sum game: To improve the lives of women, the happiness and security needs to be taken from some non-woman source. Their lives must be impoverished to make women whole, in other words. The world is moving on, leaving them behind, so they're scared. But other men never saw that faux-masculine posturing as constructive, anyway, and aren't threatened at all. It doesn't hurt a man to have women be equal, just like southern land-owners weren't dragged into slavery when their slaves were freed." -John Colagioia Opinion #3: "Well, not necessarily afraid, but rather annoyed. But there's a reason: There's a feminist philosophy that looks for equality. You can barely notice it when it's correctly applied; but it's effective, albeit in a slow way. I call it the good feminism. I know women that apply it and it's a joy to be with them. And there's the feminism that is obvious, loud, and adopted by many, often resentful/angry women, who want to eradicate men from the universe. Everything is men's fault, every man is a rapist, every man is a pig, and there's no room for discussion, unless you want a punch in your face. It's a big annoyance to hear one of those bad feminists, specially when dealing with some trivial, gender-unrelated issue. That's the kind of feminism I, as a man, hate to hear about." -Romeo Vasquez Opinion #4: "Less afraid if anything because the next time a woman hits me I’m going to hit her so hard she will end up in next week. Before I might have just taken it and played up to the traditional role of you don’t hit women. Now as we are all equal I intend to treat said woman the same way I would treat a man who did that." -Paul Idson Opinion #5: "Feminism at its core does not scare me. A genuine concern about gender egalitarian ideals is very much welcome. In fact, I think it has benefited myself as a “eligible” man a lot more. However, on the other end, women seem less happy than ever!! Perhaps it's because they have to do more share of the work. That being said, certain feminists do scare me indeed. Especially when they are exceptionally high on the crazy scale." -Kayee Tong, M.D. Opinion #6: "No, as a man who thinks there should be total equality of the sexes, genders etc I would describe myself as a feminist. Let's get one thing straight though, these women who wear combat gear and call for eradication of all men are NOT feminists. The movement needs to condem these people, they are dangerous supremacists, who have a huge detrimental effect to classification of feminism." -Lee Johnson Stephenson Opinion #7: "It has in my case definitely. It’s better to play it safe and avoid hitting on women who have the feminist warning lights like a shaved head." -Simon Smith Opinion #8: "No, because it has nothing to do with men. Feminism is about women." -Regul Martinez Opinion #9: "You were supposed to fear women unless you think you can violate a woman and find some naive and ignorant 18 years old girls to fulfill your bruised ego." -Anonymous Opinion #10: Men who feel they have to control women are p*ssies! The only person you have the right to control is yourself and your minor child- PERIOD!! Far too many men blame women for their own shortcomings and failings; it’s ridiculous. GTFU! Time to EVOLVE already. Your temper tantrums and ‘king for a day’ BS are getting OLD!! -Nun U Biznus (love the name) :P Opinion #11: "No. To the contrary. Feminism works systematically to remove prescriptive gender-roles, i.e. to allow any human being no matter what gender they happen to be to play any role. This works both ways: women who want to should have the same opportunities for a career as men do, and men who want to should have the same opportunity to be a stay-at-home parent as mothers do. The practical result of this is less gender-segregated, and that women and men get more "common ground". In societies where women and men have strictly separate roles and interactions are severely limited, the distance between genders is large, understanding is also by necessity poorer. I grew up in Norway, one of the more gender-equal countries. We did everything, at all ages together with scant concern for gender, simply as friends. Why would I be scared of women ? Women, to me, are just people. Some are nice, some are less nice, but that's equally true about men. I believe that this has made it much EASIER for me to relate to women than it would be for a man from a gender-segregated culture that lacks women as friends and were interacting with women is seen as a suspicious thing to be doing at all unless it's in certain narrow pre-defined roles such as husband and wife or brother and sister. It works both ways too: Women here in Norway are almost certainly less afraid of men, and better able to relate to them as normal people than women in more gender-segregated cultures. (and they may also have less -reason- to be scared of men, I think both harassment and abuse tends to go up with poorer equal rights.)" -Eivind Kjorstad, feminist Opinion #12: "I don't think it has made men AFRAID of women, but I do think it has made some men ANGRY with women. Just look at the comments on any social media article that discusses subjects such as sexual assault, equality in the workforce, etc, and you will find plenty of angry men saying very extremely vitriolic things about women and feminism. Not all men, of course, not even most men, but certainly a very vocal (online) minority. I consider myself to be a feminist, but I am in no way a hard-line feminist. I really like men and what they bring to the table. I like to hear their perspectives, their life challenges, etc. I think the different gifts that men and women bring to relationships, the workplace, and social arenas are complementary, and together we create a stronger, healthier society than when either sex is excluded in some way. As a therapist who often works with couples, I think some of them, both men and women, are surprised that I work hard to appreciate the values and opinions of the male half of a couple. Some of them assume that I will automatically take the side of the woman, but I am willing to call out a woman on her sh!t when she is having attitudes and behaviors that are destructive to her mate and the relationship. I try to honor and respect the male side of the relationship and create an atmosphere where both of them feel free to share, grow and change." -Lois Muir McClain Opinion #13: "Yes, the dull, caveman types are afraid of feminists. But, the cool, hot, gorgeous wealthy men actually seem to love feminists." -Jeanine Sorenson Before we move forward, let's look at the definition of feminism along with some core values. I have never reviewed the subject until now. Therefore, I am learning much of this as I investigate and write this out. Who is even the recognized authority on this subject matter? I somewhat don't know where to start. I am going to grab some articles and just run with it. If anyone has any suggestions, let me know? According to the Oxford dictionary, feminism is a noun and means the following: The advocacy of women's rights on the basis of the equality of the sexes. According to Merriam-Webster, feminism means: belief in and advocacy of the political, economic, and social equality of the sexes expressed especially through organized activity on behalf of women's rights and interests. I am now reviewing that there are four camps of feminism: liberal feminism, socialist feminism, Marxist feminism, and radical feminism. My knee jerk impression is that the people base their impression of feminism, including myself, on the radical feminism camp. Here are the core values of feminism: 1.To define, establish and achieve political, social, and economic equality between the sexes. 2. To establish concrete sisterhood.   3. Provide people the courage to stand up for what they believe. Based upon what I have seen so far, it appears that feminism's goal is not to harm men. I appears to encourage women to seek equal rights in different arenas of society, band together as sisters, and provide courage to stand up for their beliefs. On the surface, it sounds helpful to women and harmless to men. However, I am quite sure there is more bubbling underneath the surface. This concludes Part A. For the conclusion of this topic, head over next to Part B. Cheers! Leslie M. 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